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Postby jon_winebrenner » May 2nd, 2014, 9:07 pm

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Hi Everyone....it's been a while :)

That's because I've been completely and thoroughly distracted by starting my new studio and getting our project ready to show to the world.

We're finally there!

It's called Clug. It is a simple little clip for your bike that is an alternative for storing your bike when you're not using it. Our website will be going live soon: http://www.getclug.com

One of the things we're going to be doing that we think is nifty, is we will be selling the digital files for anyone that has a 3D printer. Basically, we think that this is going to be the way of the future, so we've decided to embrace it.

I'd LOVE to hear what you all have to say. Especially because I know there's a good pile of cyclists on this site. Don't hesitate to get a hold of me directly if you're interested in knowing more. I'll post some more photos as they come available in the near future.

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Postby GHoge » May 2nd, 2014, 9:44 pm


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How does it attach to the wall?

Can it hold a bike up without the wheel being on the floor?

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Postby jon_winebrenner » May 2nd, 2014, 10:00 pm

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It attaches with two screws. It is a two piece design. The inner piece snaps in and out. It will ship with two screws and two drywall anchors. The packaging has the mounting hole spacing and instructions printed on it.

No, it can't hold the bike up without a bottom wheel on the ground. We found that there are a lot of variations that already hang the bike. We also believe that you're not saving space on the floor by lifting it off the ground. You still need to take your bike on and off the wall...so the floor space is going to need to be open if you want stuff under the bike. The winch that gets the bike right over your head is the only solution that you can walk around under it that we can think of.

All of that and we also know we can't be all things to all people....and we're not going to try.

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Postby mas2 » May 3rd, 2014, 5:14 am


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So are you going to kick starter it?
It just seems like the type of product that will do well on there.

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Postby GHoge » May 3rd, 2014, 8:45 am


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jon_winebrenner wrote:It attaches with two screws. It is a two piece design. The inner piece snaps in and out. It will ship with two screws and two drywall anchors. The packaging has the mounting hole spacing and instructions printed on it.

No, it can't hold the bike up without a bottom wheel on the ground. We found that there are a lot of variations that already hang the bike. We also believe that you're not saving space on the floor by lifting it off the ground. You still need to take your bike on and off the wall...so the floor space is going to need to be open if you want stuff under the bike. The winch that gets the bike right over your head is the only solution that you can walk around under it that we can think of.

All of that and we also know we can't be all things to all people....and we're not going to try.



Cool. I've been looking for a simple bike storage solution for my apartment. Ill have to pick up the 3D files when they are up for sale.

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Postby engio » May 3rd, 2014, 9:55 am


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So wait are you _just_ going to sell 3D-files? No actual product?
What 3D-printing materials will you recommend?
That inner layer looks like some sort of soft rubber - what sort of 3Dprinter is needed for that? And how durable is it?
What about tire widths? Will it work for a track bike or a mountain bike?
I'm not even sure how it holds the bikes down-force?
Even more worried about side force (looks like wind could knock it over)

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Postby GHoge » May 3rd, 2014, 9:58 am


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Unless you used it outside, I don't think you would need to worry about the wind. The rear tire sits on the floor, so the Clug clip doesn't look like it is supporting any real weight, just balancing the bike on it's rear wheel.

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Postby jon_winebrenner » May 3rd, 2014, 10:28 am

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mas2 wrote:So are you going to kick starter it?
It just seems like the type of product that will do well on there.



Yes, but I didn't want that to be the subject of this post. I wanted to show the product and get colleague response.

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Postby jon_winebrenner » May 3rd, 2014, 10:36 am

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engio wrote:So wait are you _just_ going to sell 3D-files? No actual product?
What 3D-printing materials will you recommend?


No, we're working with manufacturers now on the production version. Due to the nature of this product, if it is successful it will be knocked off in nanoseconds. So, we're embracing the idea that someone could pay a smaller amount and print it on their own machine.

We've done all our testing with PLA. We're doing material exploration now.

That inner layer looks like some sort of soft rubber - what sort of 3Dprinter is needed for that? And how durable is it?

We print ours on a Makerbot. We've had ABS versions machined and both work the same.

We've been using the PLA versions for about 2 - 3 months (in different variations) and they keep on working the same each time.

What about tire widths? Will it work for a track bike or a mountain bike?

23mm - 28mm currently. Mountain bike version is sitting next to me. Started testing it this past Monday. After going through 3 size tweaks, we believe we have it working as it should. It does lose its proportions a bit going that big....but that's part of the game sometimes.


I'm not even sure how it holds the bikes down-force?
Even more worried about side force (looks like wind could knock it over)


Side force is an issue. We put our bikes in the studio in a corner...thus it isn't a problem. But if you put them in a high traffic area, I can see it becoming and issue and this might not be for you.

The down force all rests on the back tire. This isn't hanging your bike, it is keeping it clipped to the wall.

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Postby NURB » May 3rd, 2014, 12:30 pm

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You know you'll need a fat bike version for Minnesota...
Also, what if my bike has full fenders?
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Postby sanjy009 » May 3rd, 2014, 6:21 pm

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You could look at setting up an api at a bureau (shapeways/ sculpteo/ formwurx) to let punters customize for tire size. You wouldn't have the problem of your stl files being released into the wild, but with bureau costs and shipping it would probably be more expensive than buying an I.M part.

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Postby engio » May 4th, 2014, 3:26 am


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jon_winebrenner wrote:The down force all rests on the back tire. This isn't hanging your bike, it is keeping it clipped to the wall.

I realize that, I mean isn't there a risk of the bike rear wheel to start to roll backwards because of gravity - will the clip really hold it? I'd feel safer if I could lock it in place. Also, how will the clip work if you haven't touched your bike all winter? It won't lose elasticity?

But it seems like you've tested enough with real prototypes so I suppose you know what you're doing. The first rendered image and talk of selling 3D files made me think you hadn't actually done any real world testing..

Good answers on the rest, thanks.

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For my .02.

I have several bikes, all with different wheelbases. With this design, I would have to place the clips at different heights on the wall for optimum "clippage". Not the end of the world, but it isn't easy either.

What about marks on the wall from the lower tire? Will you offer something or will it be up to the customer?

When hanging or clipping a bike to the wall in this manner, it will twist from side to side. The edge of your clip furthest from the wall will be under a torque load when the bike twists. Being a printed part, my concern would be breakage at the corner where the wall surface and the protruding surface meet.

Is the "lip" intended to grab the ID of the rim? If yes, you will obviously have issues with with different tire sizes, rim heights and rim profiles.

And finally, I don't know if this matters, but it is more efficient to store bikes alternating nose to tail because of the width of the bars (42cm is 16.5 inches, studs are 16 inches on center). Your image has only the front wheel clipped but you should consider the rear wheel could be clipped.

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Postby jon_winebrenner » May 5th, 2014, 10:12 am

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NURB wrote:You know you'll need a fat bike version for Minnesota...
Also, what if my bike has full fenders?


James here at the office has a fender on the back wheel of his bike. He ends up resting the bike on the fender. Not ideal, but it works.

You can also turn it sideways and clip the handle bars into Clug as well....but doesn't work for straight bars.

We have a mountain bike tire in the works.

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Postby jon_winebrenner » May 5th, 2014, 10:17 am

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engio wrote:
jon_winebrenner wrote:The down force all rests on the back tire. This isn't hanging your bike, it is keeping it clipped to the wall.

I realize that, I mean isn't there a risk of the bike rear wheel to start to roll backwards because of gravity - will the clip really hold it? I'd feel safer if I could lock it in place. Also, how will the clip work if you haven't touched your bike all winter? It won't lose elasticity?

But it seems like you've tested enough with real prototypes so I suppose you know what you're doing. The first rendered image and talk of selling 3D files made me think you hadn't actually done any real world testing..

Good answers on the rest, thanks.


I'm less concerned about the elasticity and more concerned about tires losing their tire pressure. It won't really be an issue on mountain bike tires, but the road bike tires do end up releasing if you have a slow leak.

We're considering adding a strap to the design. That starts to compromise the simplicity of the design though. Our target user is an apartment dweller or bike commuter that needs something at work. Where the bike is less likely to be stored for months on end.

It isn't intended on being a product for everyone.

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