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Postby choto » June 13th, 2012, 2:05 am

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As some of you know UC is switching over to semesters next year so as a result my summer chair building quarter is only 7 weeks long. Because of the compressed timeline I'm going to try my best to use this thread to keep myself on task and get feedback etc.

I am hoping to build a lounge chair by the end of the quarter. Not a curl up and take a nap type of lounge chair, but a more active seating position chair for reading or relaxing, and ideally if time allows, I'd like to design and build a matching ottoman as well.

My personal objectives for the project are fairly simple:
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The disassembly is mainly important because I will be lugging this thing around the country when I graduate a year from now so ideally if it can break down for transport that would be great. However I'm not planning on having the whole thing flat pack as a constraint.

I just wrapped up a post-it note ideation session, mainly just exploring different architectures and stances.

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The next step with be taking about 20-30 of the doodles to a more refined sketch as well as putting together some mood/trend boards. More to come soon!

Re: DAAP Chair Summer 2012 - In Progress

Postby Coffee87 » June 13th, 2012, 7:08 am


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Cool sketches! This post-it wall would make a nice interior design element for a studio :)
Looking forward to the next steps of the project.

Re: DAAP Chair Summer 2012 - In Progress

Postby Sain » June 13th, 2012, 8:48 am

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Looking good Choto, Might want to start looking into manufacturing techniques and see how that can influence design elements. Jon Panichella just did this kerfed plywood for his senior thesis and lent it self to some cool designelements. http://www.builtbybots.com/. Might be interesting for the flat pack take.

Also if you havent checked it out. awoltrends.com has some good trend research. Not furniture specific, but a good spring board.
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Re: DAAP Chair Summer 2012 - In Progress

Postby yo » June 13th, 2012, 10:23 am

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Hot sketches! I love a good initial blast like that!

Now that is out of your system, I agree with Emmanuel, start thinkin about what fabrication techniques you want to explore and/or feel comfortable with and go back and do another burst of concepts based on that.

Re: DAAP Chair Summer 2012 - In Progress

Postby SmartWorks » June 14th, 2012, 8:43 am

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Those sketches are beautiful

Really wish we did a chair project, I think they are fascinating. Can't wait to see how it goes !

Re: DAAP Chair Summer 2012 - In Progress

Postby choto » June 14th, 2012, 10:50 am

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Thanks for the feedback everyone. I will have a major update this weekend, wrapping up my current internship tomorrow.

Eman, good call on that Awol site, some pretty nice inspiration!

Re: DAAP Chair Summer 2012 - In Progress

Postby no_spec » June 14th, 2012, 11:16 am


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in a compressed quarter your going to have to make some hard choices, even though that's what the chair quarter is about to start with.
Undergraduate hand skills typically limit you to: cut plywood, bent plywood, bent tubing, bent sheet metal and simple upholstry (no concave surfaces). Unless you have the rescources to use more advanced techniques, like hire a pro to make some parts execute a process.
Rapid prototyping can be a huge help, lazer cutting steel parts or CNC'ing shapes or joinery in solid wood.
But making the best tradoffs is where most undergrads fall down. They either go way too ambitious and only have a stack of parts for Crit or they go way too timid and have a very chunky and over built chair.
Take your sketches and carefully think about how they get made, assembled and finished off. Dont try to make an ottoman unless your certain you have time and don't design the chair from only one view (it's very tempting) be sure it's not a box.
looking forward to the updates...

Re: DAAP Chair Summer 2012 - In Progress

Postby Lmo » June 15th, 2012, 11:26 am

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Great observations no-spec. The "hand skill" caveat is a killer for sure; the desire for the mind's eye to be fulfilled is a tough nut to crack at the beginning of ones career, and not being able to personally produce an item can be a real damper on creativity. But it comes, by and by. I guess I'm Ludditian enough to resist the CNC path (no pun intended) and hold to the old way of making things ... by hand. But in a limited time situation (is there any other kind...?) it can't be beat.

Hard to keep in mind that the end result is what will be critiqued, and not the journey.

My vote; human scale, inviting proportions, combination of materials.
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Re: DAAP Chair Summer 2012 - In Progress

Postby choto » June 15th, 2012, 12:24 pm

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Thanks for the perspective Lmo and nospec, really helps frame things. I have definitely fallen into the trap of pushing too far with past school projects and ended up getting burned at the end of quarter and this is definitely a project that I will dial it back and make sure the execution is on point.

I am a decent MIG welder and have some experience with TIG for stainless so more than likely I will be leveraging that skill set, and I know my way around a sewing machine and have access to some commercial grade machines so will probably upholster myself. I would like to build as much of this with my own two hands as possible, not only for the experience but also because I can control timelines better (hopefully). But if it makes sense time wise I definitely won't hesitate to outsource.

Re: DAAP Chair Summer 2012 - In Progress

Postby no_spec » June 15th, 2012, 1:15 pm


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I'd encourage you to outsource something before you graduate however, it's a valuable experience.
Steel frame with upholstry is a great starting point, as you draw concepts keep one thing in mind: soft and or bony body parts need lots of padding when resting on steel. Students often have built hard edges under the leg muscles or across the shoulder blades.

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Postby PackageID » June 15th, 2012, 9:36 pm

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Matt...as usual very impressive. I look forward seeing your progression. There is a lot of great advice here so I will not repeat. Keep us posted and keep ut the great work.

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Re: DAAP Chair Summer 2012 - In Progress

Postby choto » June 20th, 2012, 12:22 am

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Back at the project been backed up with the moving process.

After some discussion with classmates and some the feedback from here I'm leaning more in the direction of the welded metal frame and upholstered cushions. Ideally I would like to do leather, but some synthetic fabric might be on the table as well. If I do stainless I will probably leave it as a raw brushed steel, or if I do mild steel I will be powder coating at one of the local places.

A11, A9, and A6 are a couple of the directions that I am feeling right now. Comfort and fit and finish are definitely my main objectives with this project, and I definitely want to refine as many of the little details as possible, seams, weld joints, hardware selection etc., and maybe spice it up with some chromatic accents since it's going to be a rather simple, undramatic chair.

Thanks for all the great input so far!

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Re: DAAP Chair Summer 2012 - In Progress

Postby DanOrbach » June 21st, 2012, 11:05 pm

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diggin the directions man! I think the front legs on A11 could end up being a really neat element if you ran with it for sure.

Re: DAAP Chair Summer 2012 - In Progress

Postby choto » July 11th, 2012, 11:49 pm

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Been really busy with portfolio/next internship search so I haven't been as diligent about documenting as I'm going along, but here is a quick update.

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I've been drawn to the angular framework aesthetic for the base, and have been riffing off a Lunar Lander stance on some of the concepts.

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I've also been spending time practicing my welding. I'm planning on die grinding and filing down the welds to create controlled filleted connection points rather than the typical tack welded look I've seen on high end modern furniture.

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The weld on the left was one of many practice welds for joining round rod to 10 gauge plate for load bearing. Right weld was a practice blend, I'm going to pic up some nice flap disks since the carbide burrs that I'm using are pretty aggresive at taking off material as you can see the small dip where I ate into the 1/2" rod too much.

I've settled on doing a lounge chair and ottoman configuration, with a matte black welded steel frame, and leather upholstered pillows. Still dialing in the design not really to happy with the stance of the legs and the visual clutter. Might go back the leg configuration of 2B which is cleaner less cluttered.

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Have also made a trip to the local leather supplier will be going and am leaning to a lighter brown distressed leather.

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I'm thinking about dropping the lunar lander feet sliding pads and just terminating at the welded joint. The more I look at it there's just way to much going on in the base at the moment and it's loosing some of the light, airiness I wanted.

Any thoughts or feedback would be great, still dialing everything in so fresh eyes would be great!

Re: DAAP Chair Summer 2012 - In Progress

Postby choto » July 12th, 2012, 8:34 am

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Quick redo of the base, trying to get rid of the visual clutter.

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