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Postby yo » April 12th, 2012, 2:53 pm

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Good idea!

Re: Smart Watch

Postby Travisimo » April 13th, 2012, 8:13 am

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thanks Yo, it seems all about styling a tiny screen - so many ways to go

This bluetooth connected smartwatch is nice too, in case you missed it Jakebot


Re: Smart Watch

Postby Jakebot » April 13th, 2012, 10:10 am

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Thanks for the shout out in the Pebble article today Core77!!! It's exciting to be contributing to this growing new trend!

Thanks for the vid, Travisimo! I haven't seen the watch in action before. The Sony smart watch is pretty small, which is interesting...

Re: Smart Watch

Postby yo » April 13th, 2012, 10:41 pm

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We've been following. This thread made its way around to a few folks at frog SF as well. ;-) Keep pushing!

Re: Smart Watch

Postby Jakebot » April 17th, 2012, 10:21 pm

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To help me determine what kinds of features to have and what kind of look the watch needs, I started looking at other products that encourage productivity.
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I discovered that these products are all minimal and utilitarian, leaving no distractions from the task at hand.

With this in mind, I chose a color scheme that would be minimal and utilitarian.
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I chose orange as the accent color because it encourages focus and creativity, according to my research. I like the proportions of the bottom-right color layout, so I'll try to apply those proportions to the design overall.

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I also finished up the personas I created earlier in the process by adding a few names and faces. In the final presentation 'booklet', this will likely go towards the beginning.

Re: Smart Watch

Postby RobShook » April 17th, 2012, 10:28 pm


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Cool Project,
It's great to be able to watch it develop.

I'm interested in how you'll apply the color scheme you picked out. I like how there's just a hint of orange.
It might be nice if you applied that color to the personas page also

Re: Smart Watch

Postby Jakebot » April 19th, 2012, 10:09 am

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Keeping my branding research in mind, I started to come up with a look that would fit with those other products. I've swapped the diamond-cut pattern for a grid-cut pattern, and I think the design would be much simpler as one single piece (no magnets or assembly or anything) with a NATO-style strap.
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I also did a little thinking on the brand/logo, riffing on the idea of a round peg in a square hole.

Re: Smart Watch

Postby yo » April 20th, 2012, 2:53 pm

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Part of the reason i have been so interested in this is because I actually did this project with my team about a year ago for a client. Unfortunately the entire project was mothballed, but the timing would have been perfect if they stayed with it. We got to a pretty finished level of design by the end. I can't show it (not until it gets a little older and dustier, then no one will care) but I'll give you a tip. What would make this product much more compelling is if it actually was a "buddy" to an entirely new phone and that phone's UI and hardware matched....

Re: Smart Watch

Postby Jakebot » April 20th, 2012, 5:34 pm

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yo: I like that idea about the matching smartphone, I may just do that!

I'm not a logo designer, but I thought I'd come up with some sort of identity that fits with the watch design. I kinda like 'dot' as the name of the watch, what do you guys think?
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After doing those size studies, I realized the space I'm designing for is much smaller than I thought. I've taken away all the unnecessary elements on the watch face to keep it as clean as possible.
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Here, I'm thinking of a few different ways I can alert the wearer of when they have an upcoming reminder or appointment.
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I'm starting to lean towards having a kind of countdown timer that just tells you when you have your next event. Maybe it just tells you when you have 1 hour or X number of minutes before the event so you're not constantly looking at a countdown timer...

Re: Smart Watch

Postby jurrasix » April 21st, 2012, 3:51 pm

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Instead of showing your mail inbox or facebook notifications (or who's calling you), I want the main feature to be a calendar. What's a watch for if not to keep you on schedule?


I'm curious if this is still your pitch for your project. It seems to me that you've taken all this great technology and limited it to one application. In some ways that makes sense, but I think you'll have to be more careful how you build your case for your project. Calling it a smart watch for instance will put you in the category of products that do what your concept does (though maybe not as well), plus a bajillion other things. I've been checking in on this thread here and there, but I've also been watching that Pebble watch go from 1-6 million in fundraising in days. It seems people do want messages, texts, emails, callerID, etc. on their wrist.

For me, that's not something desirable. I'd be more into a watch like yours. A focused product surrounding the idea of helping you stay on time and keep on schedule. Like smart phones, once all these other features get added it becomes less focused and in many ways inefficient at it's main task. However you pitch the final solution, I think you should steer clear of making too many direct comparisons to smart watches and focus on the benefit your product really sells which is, timeliness.

Side note: I personally would be less interested in a solution that might require me to get a whole new phone or whole new calendar service. I'd rather it integrate well and compliment the services I currently use which are often forced upon me, especially in the work setting.

Re: Smart Watch

Postby Jakebot » April 23rd, 2012, 10:25 am

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My next update will be addressing a lot of these issues, thanks for the input :)

Re: Smart Watch

Postby Jakebot » May 1st, 2012, 11:25 pm

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I'm thrashing a lot on how to finish the hardware design, so this update is taking a little longer than I expected. Here are a few of my rough sketches:
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After getting the original circular design into CAD, I realized I had no room for the strap to attach itself. Now, I'm playing around with a square base and a circular bezel. In the drawings above you can see a couple variations on how the screws are oriented to hold the strap bar in place.

I'm thinking through how the watch-phone interaction is going to happen, but you can see some of my early developments here. Sorry for the roughness here, I'm trying to develop the idea a bit more before I spend time committing it to vector illustrations.
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Basically, the watch is a way to display the task management software on the smart phone. It's kind of like the "Action Method", except it encourages you to choose a time to complete the task instead of letting it sit in a to-do purgatory.

All of the task input and organization flows through the smart phone interface, and it's simply displayed on the watch screen. Spinning the bezel allows you to flip through the different sets of tasks you've set up.

This will make more sense once it's all executed visually, but if you guys have thoughts so far please let me know!

Re: Smart Watch

Postby yo » May 2nd, 2012, 9:45 am

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Circles resting in squares are tough to pull off. Check out the straps on a Bell & Ross for example. The typically taper quite a bit as they move away from the square case to make them proportionally feel right:

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Tsovets also have some subtle shaping.

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Re: Smart Watch

Postby Jakebot » May 2nd, 2012, 12:22 pm

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That's a good point, Yo, adding a square shape to the design may open a bit of a pandora's box. Though I am getting a bit antsy that I don't have a physical model yet, so I may just CAD out a few different options (square, round, hexagonal, etc.) and send them off to shapeways so I can see what they're really going to look like. It's hard to gauge the design when it's still in sketch or CAD form.

Re: Smart Watch

Postby rkuchinsky » May 2nd, 2012, 1:23 pm

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Interesting project. I've been lurking and following but not replying.

Don't waste your time in CAD. Make something out of bits of wood, foam or other simple material. Something like a watch is esp. key to get proportions and feel right and it's almost impossible to do in CAD. 1 mm can make all the difference to scale and it's not something you can easily reference in CAD.

You should be making tons of models for something this simple. If you haven't gone through at least 20 low rez desktop models, you aren't doing the process very effectively. If you had done this earlier, you wouldn't be this far along and had to deviate from the circle only shape to a circle + square. It's a major change that could kill or lift the whole design. The doodle you have are good, but I'd also recommend some higher fidelity sketches and detailing in addition to the desktop physical modeling.

Need to start getting into the finishes and details physically as well. What does the diamond knurl feel like to hold/turn? How does changing that to a square pattern affect the grip/feel? What kind of texture is on the crown? is the glass crowned or flat? In something as small as a watch it's the fine textures, details and fractions of a MM that make all the difference.

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