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Postby Lukewarm » February 15th, 2006, 5:11 pm


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Is there any alternative system to specing mold texture besides using Mold-Tech's designation?

Also does mold maker in China use the Mold-Tech specs or exclusively their own system?

Postby Lukewarm » February 23rd, 2006, 1:38 am


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Mold-tec is charging $385 for their sample book, is this right? Or is it because they dont waste it giving them out free to small one man shop.

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Postby Clyde » February 23rd, 2006, 2:48 am


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Mold-tec is charging everyone that much unless you can convince them that you're going to be using them or you have a track record. My experience in China is that I'll spec a Mold-Tech number or "equivalent." They usually hit it. Spec a lighter texture, so if they miss it they can go deeper in the mold.

Postby Timf » February 23rd, 2006, 3:24 am

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China/ Hong Kong mold spec are taken from:

Yick Sang Metal and Plastic Mould texturing Limited
No. 22, Tsun Fat Street, G/F
To Kwa Wan, Kowloon
Hong Kong

Phone: 852-2362-7557
Fax: 852-2333-9016

And no, they do not have a web site.

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Postby Clyde » February 23rd, 2006, 3:39 am


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Timf,
Do they offer a flipbook like Mold-Tech that I can purchase?

Postby Timf » February 23rd, 2006, 3:46 am

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Yes. We have one here, in Hong Kong. It was here before I arrived. You can try to fax them.

I can't believe they don't sell them in the US.

how do they apply the texture...

Postby design-engine » February 23rd, 2006, 9:04 am

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I don't know anyone who has paid for that book. Moldtech makes money when you ship them your tool for texturing. I guess the Chinese equivalent has the same setup. It seams to me that moldtech keeps there technique as top secret. FYI: I believe it involves acid and base slurry that base bubbles in a consistent size allowing the acid to penetrate and etch the steel. The base restricts the etching process and walla. Genuine Imitation leather. Can someone back me up here? I am guessing.
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Postby Lukewarm » August 8th, 2007, 12:57 pm


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Timf wrote:China/ Hong Kong mold spec are taken from:

Yick Sang Metal and Plastic Mould texturing Limited
No. 22, Tsun Fat Street, G/F
To Kwa Wan, Kowloon
Hong Kong

Phone: 852-2362-7557
Fax: 852-2333-9016

And no, they do not have a web site.


Hi Tim, while at HK I went and got the sample book from YS. I got it a while back ago, but it just took me a long time to drop a note to say thanks.

If anybody else is interested in visiting the YS office. There is no subway station nearby so it is either taxi or bus. I took the bus from the Kowloon Ferry Terminal. I forgot the bus number, ask any bus driver there for which bus is going to "To Kwa Wan". The office is in a building located at one end of a side stree lined with motorcyle and auto repair shops. YS office is located on the ground floor of the building. It is very easy to miss it with a very undistinguishable door. Its entrance is on the right side of the apartment building's metal gate.

The office is somewhat of a dump with a small machine shop in the back. The sample book actually comes in two binders sold separately. I bought both sets for about US$80. I tried to talk him into giving me a better deal but "no second price". I ask him how often does people stop by to purchase this book and he said every now and then. The week before I showed up a group of Germans stopped by, so this might become a hotspot for the international designer and engineer crowd.

And yes they actually have an website now yicksang.com

Its funny that I've been to HK many times yet this is the first time I actually bought something there besides paying for hotel and food. I hope the HK Tourism Board will take me off thier blacklist of unwelcomed stingy visitors now.

Postby warrenginn » August 22nd, 2007, 11:05 pm

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Lukewarm wrote:Mold-tec is charging $385 for their sample book, is this right? Or is it because they dont waste it giving them out free to small one man shop.


Yes, that's right... They will credit you with the cost of the book with your first texturing order... Seems fair... Why give something away that I imagine is fairly expensive to produce?

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Postby mpdesigner » March 16th, 2008, 11:25 pm


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How much do you think it would cost to texture a piece of plastic with a texture similar to MT-11010 on one side of a piece of PC say about 80mm X 100mm? I got a quote it would be around 95 US bucks so I just want to see if that is about right in your experience.

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You are talking about texturing the mold, right? This is a photo-chemical process where you "burn" the texture into the mold, not the part...

At $100 to add texturing to a mold, that sounds really inexpensive...

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Postby pier » March 17th, 2008, 1:52 pm


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Moldtech costs on average approximately 10% of the tool cost.

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Thanks. I think I got a good deal.

As long as it is visually equivalent or close enough we can live with it. I'm not takiing a microscope to it.

Postby me » March 21st, 2008, 5:05 am

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You can always try using a spark roughness VDI number - you can get pretty close to Mold Tech but it won't look quite as nice and wont wear nearly as well... It depends on your budget.

Postby octo » April 3rd, 2008, 8:29 am

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You can also EDM a texture onto a mold (electrical discharge machining). It's like spark erosion.

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