iab wrote:But by far, the most common thread that is started is "I have a degree in 'not design' and I want to be a designer". In that case, there are 2 avenues. First, get a masters because wasting a year in time and money covering prerequisite humanities for a second bachelors is asinine. The second is to use your degree to get a job adjunct to design and do both. Sure, it will be a lot of work. Hours will be long. But at least in the second case you are getting paid.
This I just don't agree with at all.
I did an ID masters and I have been frustrated with students that jumped in without proper design training. Not just skill-wise but also in their maturity as design thinkers and form developers.
The course was slowed down significantly by trying to pull people along that were not on a grad-school level.
The point of a masters course is not to teach you the basics but to go beyond that.
If the students were required to take a prep-year before the Masters, things might be better but I would still argue that in many cases one year is not enough development.
What I ended up doing was to do 3 out of 4 years in my 2nd ID Bachelor program (the first was non design) and then switch to a Masters program when I felt ready for it.
So in the end I was accepted in the graduate program practically on my portfolio and technically on my first Bachelors.
Will anyone on these boards claim they learned more in their 4 years of college than they did in the first year of their job? So why exactly is learning on the job worse than getting a BS, BA or BFA?
To work your way up is a different story and I can definitely see that happening but it seems like a hell of a hill to climb.
A lot of designers went into their education wanting to design one thing and end up wanting to work with something completely different. School give you the opportunity to test drive many different design disciplines and to have enough time to figure out your personal point of view and style.
If you have found a place that is good and will take you in as an apprentice, you will very much be a product of that style of design.
As an educated Jr, switching jobs and learning from different studios is a heck of a lot easier than if you are untrained.
However, I would assume that doing 3 years in a good school with internships in the summer and then getting a solid jr design position will be less work and faster than having to slave away in a modelshop for at least the same amount of years and learning ID core skills on the side.