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FH13 wrote:Jacob,
A masters in ID will not provide you the necessary foundation training and education of a Bachelors in ID. It is a common misconception and some students think of it as a shortcut to getting an ID job.

If you are looking for an ID job the employer will be looking at your portfolio first and your education/degree last; unless you are applying for more of a theoretical design position.


I brought that up and I was told I will be a track 3 graduate student. This means that you have no degree pertaining to Industrial Design. It isn't a shortcut because you will essentially be a Sophomore to Junior level design student but all of your classes will pertain to your graduate degree. So, the foundations and training will be in the track that I would be taking because it is geared toward someone who is supposedly new to design.


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Looking for some suggestions and advice:

Got admitted into UC Industrial Design - Art, painting and new product design is my passion.
Also got admitted into 3 of the Direct Entry 7 year Medical Program (3+4) and Undergraduate Business program of a top tier business school

My heart is saying to join UC Industrial Design. However, not very knowledgeable about the career prospects of a product designer.

Any suggestions from the people who are in the trenches will be appreciated

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blackbelt999 wrote:Looking for some suggestions and advice:

Got admitted into UC Industrial Design - Art, painting and new product design is my passion.
Also got admitted into 3 of the Direct Entry 7 year Medical Program (3+4) and Undergraduate Business program of a top tier business school

My heart is saying to join UC Industrial Design. However, not very knowledgeable about the career prospects of a product designer.

Any suggestions from the people who are in the trenches will be appreciated


Design, medicine, and business are quite different fields.

If your heart is in it for the money and the long term financial gains, then medicine and business certainly come out ahead (once you factor in paying off 7 years of med school debt).

But if you are passionate about design there are plenty of designers who have made great long term careers out of design and while we'll never hit the same tax bracket as the folks on Wall St. it's an extremely engaging, hands on and fun career path. The reason most of us spent our childhoods building stuff is because we love building stuff, design lets you do that and make enough money to have a good life.

There are a lot of branches that you can take an ID degree. My friends and former classmates have done everything from graphic design, web design, product design, User Experience, teaching, though some just shifted out of the field entirely.

Re: Industrial Design Schools: Opinions and Questions

Postby FH13 » February 24th, 2016, 2:18 pm


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Can you elaborate more about your question regarding Career Prospects? What are your concerns? What do you think you'll be doing?


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by Career Prospects, I mean

What is % of UC DAAP ID graduates are employed within 3 months of graduation and what is the average salary
What kind of demand the graduates have in employment market
% Growth in next 5 or 10 years
Average Salary of graduates who has 5 to 10 years experience and > 10 years Experience
Drop out rate within DAAP ID and Post graduation (Change of career)

Re: Industrial Design Schools: Opinions and Questions

Postby FH13 » February 24th, 2016, 5:09 pm


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Contact UC DAAP ID for their specific numbers. Talk to their department teachers/counselors to get a more first hand experience answer.
There are more graduates than demand I would say. Very competitive market. You also have people applying from different states, countries and industries.
Some general salary numbers. http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job ... ner/Salary - Salary will depend greatly on size of company and location. Consultancy vs Coorporate, etc.
It's a very competitive field. I'm afraid you won't like the percentages of people that actually work in ID after graduation.

Re: Industrial Design Schools: Opinions and Questions

Postby yo » February 24th, 2016, 5:28 pm

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You can look at the core77 salary survey as well: http://www.coroflot.com/creative-employment-snapshot

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FH13 wrote:It's a very competitive field. I'm afraid you won't like the percentages of people that actually work in ID after graduation.


The numbers might be a bit daunting but I think that getting freaked out by these percentages before entering ID is the wrong way to go about tit.

Industrial Design, or Design in general, never struck me as a cushy money play anyway. If you want to play it safe, design isn't it. It's not a painting-by-numbers kind of job.
I liked what I recently read from Yo. That designers are more like pro athletes.
You go into this profession believing that the percentages of who makes it don't matter because there is no way you won't make it.
Who cares about the ones falling by the wayside? It won't be you!

I believe that there is a good amount of, maybe sometimes delusional and often (so far) unfounded confidence needed to make it.
That you have something special to contribute that no one else could have done in that specific way.

This might sound very romantic but it does get you through school and if you can sell the believe in your abilities at your first interviews, it will get you your first gig too.

Re: Industrial Design Schools: Opinions and Questions

Postby FH13 » February 24th, 2016, 8:24 pm


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Well blackbelt is interested in numbers so just wanted to give him a head's up. I think when I went to school the percentages were very low and decreased as time went by. I want to say less than 30% or so (don't quote me) would work in ID after graduation.
Having said that, if you have what it takes and give it a 100% while in school you can have a great, fulfilling & fun career.

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FH13 wrote:Having said that, if you have what it takes and give it a 100% while in school you can have a great, fulfilling & fun career.


Agreed :wink:


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Thank you very much to all of you for your input and advice


Mehul_Sharma
 
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Hi all!

I'm a student from India and would really appreciate some advice.

I did my undergraduation from a design college here about a year ago. Since then I've been working on low cost medical products in rural india. I've applied to a few schools in the US for a masters and really need some help picking.

I've gotten into

1) University of Cincinnati
2) Arizona State university
3) UIUC
4) Pratt Institute
5) California College of Design

I'm also on the waitlist at RISD.

I've been considering going to a university and not an art school because I love multidisciplinary work. This narrows my options down to UIUC, UIC and ASU.

UIUC has offered me a TA which give me a full tuition fee waiver and a stipend which is a really sweet deal. (To attend anywhere else, I will be in a ton of debt; something I would rather avoid. )

So here's my dilemma. Everything I can find on the forum about UIUC is a bit dated. The latest comments were from acm who did his undergrad in 2012.

My questions to anybody who have heard about the program to anybody who recently/seen portfolios/interacted with recent students:

1) are the portfolios competitive?
2) and consistent pattern in terms of skills the students seem to be lacking; straight out of college?
3) any reasons for not attending UIUC and joining one of the other colleges?

I'm a bit hesitant about UIUC largely because I haven't been able to find a lot of portfolios on behance or on the www.
I want to attend college largely for exposure to an international audience, and to polish my skill set; something there is dire need of.

Visiting the universities is not really feasible at this point so I have to make do with what I can find online.

Thanks in advance and apologies for such a long post.


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Hi all!

I'm a student from India and would really appreciate some advice.

I did my undergraduation from a design college here about a year ago. Since then I've been working on low cost medical products in rural india. I've applied to a few schools in the US for a masters and really need some help picking.

I've gotten into

1) University of Cincinnati
2) Arizona State university
3) UIUC
4) Pratt Institute
5) California College of Design

I'm also on the waitlist at RISD.

I've been considering going to a university and not an art school because I love multidisciplinary work. This narrows my options down to UIUC, UIC and ASU.

UIUC has offered me a TA which give me a full tuition fee waiver and a stipend which is a really sweet deal. (To attend anywhere else, I will be in a ton of debt; something I would rather avoid. )

So here's my dilemma. Everything I can find on the forum about UIUC is a bit dated. The latest comments were from acm who did his undergrad in 2012.

My questions to anybody who have heard about the program to anybody who recently/seen portfolios/interacted with recent students:

1) are the portfolios competitive?
2) and consistent pattern in terms of skills the students seem to be lacking; straight out of college?
3) any reasons for not attending UIUC and joining one of the other colleges?

I'm a bit hesitant about UIUC largely because I haven't been able to find a lot of portfolios on behance or on the www.
I want to attend college largely for exposure to an international audience, and to polish my skill set; something there is dire need of.

Visiting the universities is not really feasible at this point so I have to make do with what I can find online.

Thanks in advance and apologies for such a long post.


Mehul_Sharma
 
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Hi all!

I'm a student from India and would really appreciate some advice.

I did my undergraduation from a design college here about a year ago. Since then I've been working on low cost medical products in rural india. I've applied to a few schools in the US for a masters and really need some help picking.

I've gotten into

1) University of Cincinnati
2) Arizona State university
3) UIUC
4) Pratt Institute
5) California College of Design

I'm also on the waitlist at RISD.

I've been considering going to a university and not an art school because I love multidisciplinary work. This narrows my options down to UIUC, UIC and ASU.

UIUC has offered me a TA which give me a full tuition fee waiver and a stipend which is a really sweet deal. (To attend anywhere else, I will be in a ton of debt; something I would rather avoid. )

So here's my dilemma. Everything I can find on the forum about UIUC is a bit dated. The latest comments were from acm who did his undergrad in 2012.

My questions to anybody who have heard about the program to anybody who recently/seen portfolios/interacted with recent students:

1) are the portfolios competitive?
2) and consistent pattern in terms of skills the students seem to be lacking; straight out of college?
3) any reasons for not attending UIUC and joining one of the other colleges?

I'm a bit hesitant about UIUC largely because I haven't been able to find a lot of portfolios on behance or on the www.
I want to attend college largely for exposure to an international audience, and to polish my skill set; something there is dire need of.

Visiting the universities is not really feasible at this point so I have to make do with what I can find online.

Thanks in advance and apologies for such a long post.


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To me, it seems like it's a 1/4 way between a technical school and a design school. There is a huge focus on 3D, judging from their poorly designed web page.

I just see it being name-dropped all over the place, but I'm not finding anyone who's attended or who can comment.

Thanks

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